While we always have been on our own, it is worse now for the reasons you give. Your sketch of staffing issues adds depth to my understanding of the problem.
Even before Ferguson, Mo. it seemed to me that the national government, especially when the dems are in control of it, actively sought to discredit local police departments to make a national police force answerable the Washington D.C. more palatable to the public. It was not until Ferguson that I learned that the feds had programs already in use to place small town PDs under their thumb.
It is my belief that they intend to do to law enforcement what they did to public health; create difficulties through legislation and regulation that made it difficult for many hospitals to operate in the best condition interests of their patients, causing an uproar that made Obama Care a reality. Now that they have complete control of the medical industry, they pull off a fake pandemic to steal and election, implement draconian mitigation policies that destroyed livelihoods (including this commenter’s), destroyed families and other relationships, destroyed childhoods and education as a partial list. Just wait until they completely destroy the public’s faith in their local PDs and we have a national police force. Will make our current troubles seem like the good ole days.
Anyway, I'm back, they are going to fuck up anything that has an influence on the people, law enforcement, medical, fire department, nope, none of it is for free for the American Citizen. It all costs, and that cost is plenty, let me tell you. And that's not from doing anything wrong, just from being involved and that is something you'd rather not do, at all, "I don't know nothing."
And what happened to those involved? I know that those who did dirty on Ruby Ridge are now high up in the FBI chain of command.
At one point when learning about Waco I wondered about the “escalation of force” principle. With both Ruby Ridge and Waco and now it seems with almost every arrest, law enforcement skips the knock on the door and show badges and warrant step and go straight to sending in the SWAT team. Hell, they are not even concerned enough to care overly much in ensuring they got the correct address and that the person/s they seek still live there.
Ferguson was the defining event where Hillary Clinton used Mrs. Brown who had disowned her son because of his bad behavior to pander for black votes and profile the officer as the criminal! In turn Obama supported the BS and did not call for law and order!
Downhill since then and Floyd event was of the same situation! He was high on drugs and needed restraint!
It sure was, but it also let us know that the feds had a well oiled system in place to take over the city’s police department and any other that had anything embarrassing happen to it.
I like that Missouri is one of the states with a Castle Law... as long as the intruder doesn't survive you're not held at fault for self defense.
it's another matter if you only wound them though, then they can sue you for being hurt while they violated the private property boundaries separating the inside of your home from the police state.
Yep, once a friend and co-worker at the bar has occasion to confront a thief at his house at 2 AM. He had a 22 long rifle and after taking 6 rounds of 357 magnum in the vicinity, he shot back with 3 well placed rounds, wounding the perp in the chest. Police were called, and eventually the guy recovered. He sued Ben for everything he had and won, getting Ben's house in the process. Ben told the judge he sold something else, the 22 and bought a thirty aught six.
I'd shoot first, then call 911. I've gotten to the point during the day my piece is on my hip. At night on the nightstand. Police are 3 miles away, you'd be dead, and preps gone in that time. live to close to #5 in violent crime in Memphis, TN. Criminals travel and think country folk are dumb.
With the police so busy, why call 911. Good grief, take up a couple of officers, investigators, the coroner (at least his minions), ballistics, and so forth, just save them all the trouble. You got a truck, or one you can borrow, a trailer to toe behind your Jeep, something. Otherwise, drag him, them, or whatever to the back 40, and start digging. Hopefully, you won't hit whatever someone else put there.
A town of 7,000 doesn't have the resources. They have to get them from Memphis, TN. We are too old to do that, but a good idea. Neighbors would hear a gunshot, they all own weapons. Most are retired Military.
While we always have been on our own, it is worse now for the reasons you give. Your sketch of staffing issues adds depth to my understanding of the problem.
Even before Ferguson, Mo. it seemed to me that the national government, especially when the dems are in control of it, actively sought to discredit local police departments to make a national police force answerable the Washington D.C. more palatable to the public. It was not until Ferguson that I learned that the feds had programs already in use to place small town PDs under their thumb.
It is my belief that they intend to do to law enforcement what they did to public health; create difficulties through legislation and regulation that made it difficult for many hospitals to operate in the best condition interests of their patients, causing an uproar that made Obama Care a reality. Now that they have complete control of the medical industry, they pull off a fake pandemic to steal and election, implement draconian mitigation policies that destroyed livelihoods (including this commenter’s), destroyed families and other relationships, destroyed childhoods and education as a partial list. Just wait until they completely destroy the public’s faith in their local PDs and we have a national police force. Will make our current troubles seem like the good ole days.
Excellent comment.
I aim to please.
Will be out for about an hour, going to take the girls (granddaughters) to school.
Anyway, I'm back, they are going to fuck up anything that has an influence on the people, law enforcement, medical, fire department, nope, none of it is for free for the American Citizen. It all costs, and that cost is plenty, let me tell you. And that's not from doing anything wrong, just from being involved and that is something you'd rather not do, at all, "I don't know nothing."
I agree with all except one point. I believe “going” is the wrong tense of the situation. I believe they “are”.
Noted, with agreement.
I should also have given my thanks for your compliment. I do so belatedly now. Thanks.
The biggest school mass KILLING was WACO, GOVERNMENT DONE.
And what happened to those involved? I know that those who did dirty on Ruby Ridge are now high up in the FBI chain of command.
At one point when learning about Waco I wondered about the “escalation of force” principle. With both Ruby Ridge and Waco and now it seems with almost every arrest, law enforcement skips the knock on the door and show badges and warrant step and go straight to sending in the SWAT team. Hell, they are not even concerned enough to care overly much in ensuring they got the correct address and that the person/s they seek still live there.
Ferguson was the defining event where Hillary Clinton used Mrs. Brown who had disowned her son because of his bad behavior to pander for black votes and profile the officer as the criminal! In turn Obama supported the BS and did not call for law and order!
Downhill since then and Floyd event was of the same situation! He was high on drugs and needed restraint!
It sure was, but it also let us know that the feds had a well oiled system in place to take over the city’s police department and any other that had anything embarrassing happen to it.
Balance of power between federal and state have been corrupted!
It has and it has been for quite some time. I do not know for how long, but I do know it is measured in decades rather than years.
I like that Missouri is one of the states with a Castle Law... as long as the intruder doesn't survive you're not held at fault for self defense.
it's another matter if you only wound them though, then they can sue you for being hurt while they violated the private property boundaries separating the inside of your home from the police state.
Yep, once a friend and co-worker at the bar has occasion to confront a thief at his house at 2 AM. He had a 22 long rifle and after taking 6 rounds of 357 magnum in the vicinity, he shot back with 3 well placed rounds, wounding the perp in the chest. Police were called, and eventually the guy recovered. He sued Ben for everything he had and won, getting Ben's house in the process. Ben told the judge he sold something else, the 22 and bought a thirty aught six.
Sounds like one needs to be a very good shooter, then.
I'd shoot first, then call 911. I've gotten to the point during the day my piece is on my hip. At night on the nightstand. Police are 3 miles away, you'd be dead, and preps gone in that time. live to close to #5 in violent crime in Memphis, TN. Criminals travel and think country folk are dumb.
With the police so busy, why call 911. Good grief, take up a couple of officers, investigators, the coroner (at least his minions), ballistics, and so forth, just save them all the trouble. You got a truck, or one you can borrow, a trailer to toe behind your Jeep, something. Otherwise, drag him, them, or whatever to the back 40, and start digging. Hopefully, you won't hit whatever someone else put there.
A town of 7,000 doesn't have the resources. They have to get them from Memphis, TN. We are too old to do that, but a good idea. Neighbors would hear a gunshot, they all own weapons. Most are retired Military.
Knock knock who’s there, AR 10 and his pal Mr. 45. Boom boom out goes the lights.