I am retired from the refining industry, I worked for the largest oil refiner in N.A.
Just a few short years ago when we were fracking, we had more NatGas than we knew what to do with. We made NGL's from it (natural gas liquids) which were much safer to export than the vapor, but the processing took much of the profits. In some cases, NG was simply burned-off at the flare, just too much of it.
Our steel industry died presumably because of clean energy concerns. Coal-fired smelts wouldn't do.
Any nation's manufacturing base almost has to include steel. Any industry will have a use for steel, but no doubt it is the backbone of the industrialized nations. Our manufacturing disappeared with steelmaking's disappearance.
When we had NG prices so low we were practically giving it away, I never heard a peep about reviving our manufacturing base, our steelmaking. We had all those shuttered foundries ready to be fired-up with clean NG fuel. Nothing. Nada.
And now, with this unfriendly business climate, and no real base for our "re-realized" manufacturing dreams, the re-firing up of our economy is the concern? Huh?
Do you know the only steel the CCP has to use comes from the cubed automobiles sent to them? If we stopped sending scrap steel they couldn't make shit. That's the difference steel makes.
MY dad a WW11 Vet worked for Youngstown Sheet and Tube when this happened. 1977, Jimmy Carter was President. Carter never even bothered to send out an aide to receive the petitions when they arrived. Amazingly, the president, who was a well-known supporter of the working class, never even acknowledged them.
It was just before 7 a.m., and the fog that had settled over the river was beginning to lift. As the sun began to streak through the mist, the men made their way into the labyrinth of buildings where they worked.
In the next hour, their lives would change forever.
From then on, this date in 1977 would be known as Black Monday in the Steel Valley, which stretches from Mahoning and Trumbull counties in Ohio eastward toward Pittsburgh. It is the date when Youngstown Sheet and Tube abruptly furloughed 5,000 workers in one day.
The bleeding never stopped.
Within the next 18 months, US Steel announced that the nation’s largest steel producer was also shutting down 16 plants across the nation, including their Ohio Works in Youngstown, a move that eliminated an additional 4,000 workers here. That announcement came one day before Jones and Laughlin Steel Corp. said they were cutting thousands of jobs at their facilities in the Mahoning Valley, too.
Within a decade, 40,000 jobs were gone. Within that same decade, 50,000 people had left the region, and by the next decade, that number was up to 100,000. Today the 22 miles of booming steel mills and the support industries that once lined the Mahoning River have mostly disappeared — either blown up, dismantled or reclaimed by nature.
If a bomb had hit this region, the scar would be no less severe on its landscape.
“The domino effect of Black Monday went on forever,” said Gary Steinbeck of nearby Warren, Ohio. Steinbeck was working up the river that day from the rolling plant at H.K. Porter, which also later went out of business. “The word spread quickly. Back then there weren’t any cellphones or social media. Good news travels fast, bad news travels at the speed of light. We knew within the hour the guys down the river were hurting, we knew within a day families were hurting, we knew within a week the whole region was suffering,” he said.
“Those numbers only reflect the jobs that were lost in the plant; the ripple effect was equally devastating. Grocery stores, pizza shops, gas stations, restaurants, department stores, car dealerships, barber shops all saw their business plummet and they started closing,” said Steinbeck.
Now the Terriff screaming has started. Which countries impose the highest tariffs on the US? China, EU and Canada have highest tariffs on the US in 2025
Donald Trump announces sweeping reciprocal tariffs against ‘friend and foe’ with a 10% minimum. Trump announces sweeping “reciprocal” tariffs against key allies
A 54% total tariff rate against Chinese imports will go into effect on April 9, with tariffs announced against over 100 trading partners
The changes made by the contractor are now being done internally by a software engineer, in about 10 hours a week
Note: LIBTARD PRESS ARE NOW USING JUST PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NAME NOT TITLE. BIDEN WAS ALWAYS ADDRESSED AS PRESIDENT, Except by certain ultra conservative press.
A note on domestic production.....
I am retired from the refining industry, I worked for the largest oil refiner in N.A.
Just a few short years ago when we were fracking, we had more NatGas than we knew what to do with. We made NGL's from it (natural gas liquids) which were much safer to export than the vapor, but the processing took much of the profits. In some cases, NG was simply burned-off at the flare, just too much of it.
Our steel industry died presumably because of clean energy concerns. Coal-fired smelts wouldn't do.
Any nation's manufacturing base almost has to include steel. Any industry will have a use for steel, but no doubt it is the backbone of the industrialized nations. Our manufacturing disappeared with steelmaking's disappearance.
When we had NG prices so low we were practically giving it away, I never heard a peep about reviving our manufacturing base, our steelmaking. We had all those shuttered foundries ready to be fired-up with clean NG fuel. Nothing. Nada.
And now, with this unfriendly business climate, and no real base for our "re-realized" manufacturing dreams, the re-firing up of our economy is the concern? Huh?
Do you know the only steel the CCP has to use comes from the cubed automobiles sent to them? If we stopped sending scrap steel they couldn't make shit. That's the difference steel makes.
Onward, Christian soldiers!
MY dad a WW11 Vet worked for Youngstown Sheet and Tube when this happened. 1977, Jimmy Carter was President. Carter never even bothered to send out an aide to receive the petitions when they arrived. Amazingly, the president, who was a well-known supporter of the working class, never even acknowledged them.
The day that destroyed the working class and sowed the seeds of Trump https://nypost.com/2017/09/16/the-day-that-destroyed-the-working-class-and-sowed-the-seeds-for-trump/
It was just before 7 a.m., and the fog that had settled over the river was beginning to lift. As the sun began to streak through the mist, the men made their way into the labyrinth of buildings where they worked.
In the next hour, their lives would change forever.
From then on, this date in 1977 would be known as Black Monday in the Steel Valley, which stretches from Mahoning and Trumbull counties in Ohio eastward toward Pittsburgh. It is the date when Youngstown Sheet and Tube abruptly furloughed 5,000 workers in one day.
The bleeding never stopped.
Within the next 18 months, US Steel announced that the nation’s largest steel producer was also shutting down 16 plants across the nation, including their Ohio Works in Youngstown, a move that eliminated an additional 4,000 workers here. That announcement came one day before Jones and Laughlin Steel Corp. said they were cutting thousands of jobs at their facilities in the Mahoning Valley, too.
Within a decade, 40,000 jobs were gone. Within that same decade, 50,000 people had left the region, and by the next decade, that number was up to 100,000. Today the 22 miles of booming steel mills and the support industries that once lined the Mahoning River have mostly disappeared — either blown up, dismantled or reclaimed by nature.
If a bomb had hit this region, the scar would be no less severe on its landscape.
“The domino effect of Black Monday went on forever,” said Gary Steinbeck of nearby Warren, Ohio. Steinbeck was working up the river that day from the rolling plant at H.K. Porter, which also later went out of business. “The word spread quickly. Back then there weren’t any cellphones or social media. Good news travels fast, bad news travels at the speed of light. We knew within the hour the guys down the river were hurting, we knew within a day families were hurting, we knew within a week the whole region was suffering,” he said.
“Those numbers only reflect the jobs that were lost in the plant; the ripple effect was equally devastating. Grocery stores, pizza shops, gas stations, restaurants, department stores, car dealerships, barber shops all saw their business plummet and they started closing,” said Steinbeck.
Never forget.
The SHTF in Western NC. The Govt. Is Making Everything Worse.
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/shtf-western-nc-govt/
The SHTF in Western NC almost two months ago, and people are still insurvival mode.
Another "not a fan of Tarriffs" journalist.
Sen. Dr. Ron Paul (Ret.) is the true OG fraud finder. He's been trying to tell us this for 25 years or so. We didn't listen. Now we're here.
Dr. Paul, you da' MAN!
Onward, Christian soldiers!
FETUS REPORTS NEED A PUBLIC AIRING. CITIZENS AGAINST GOV'T WASTE EXPOSES THE EARMARKS EVERY YEAR. USE IT.
Why do I feel like you're ordering me around in a loud voice?
Onward, Christian soldiers!
We're still waiting on the Epstein files.
Now the Terriff screaming has started. Which countries impose the highest tariffs on the US? China, EU and Canada have highest tariffs on the US in 2025
https://www.foxnews.com/world/which-countries-impose-highest-tariffs-us
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Donald Trump announces sweeping reciprocal tariffs against ‘friend and foe’ with a 10% minimum. Trump announces sweeping “reciprocal” tariffs against key allies
A 54% total tariff rate against Chinese imports will go into effect on April 9, with tariffs announced against over 100 trading partners
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/04/03/trump-announces-sweeping-reciprocal-tariffs-against-key-allies/
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John Kennedy compares tariffs to whiskey and bets ‘every foreign trade rep’ will negotiate
https://www.conservativenewsdaily.net/breaking-news/john-kennedy-compares-tariffs-to-whiskey-and-bets-every-foreign-trade-rep-will-negotiate/
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DOGE uncovers VA’s agreement to pay $380K per month for minor website modifications
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doge-uncovers-vas-agreement-pay-380k-per-month-minor-website-modifications
The changes made by the contractor are now being done internally by a software engineer, in about 10 hours a week
Note: LIBTARD PRESS ARE NOW USING JUST PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NAME NOT TITLE. BIDEN WAS ALWAYS ADDRESSED AS PRESIDENT, Except by certain ultra conservative press.
Shell game.
The grifter trash hates Trump. I enjoy the crying the thieves are paying others to do. Lol
Greg, Annette, thanks for the restacks.
Thanks Susan, Joe, for the restacks.
Joe, thanks for the restack.
Thanks for the restack, mary.
Thanks for the restack, Gbill7.
Thanks for the restack, Abigail.
Thanks for the restacks, MnmMom, geraldsd, TexBritta.
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Thanks for the restack, Trudy.