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Edwin's avatar

Oh yeah, I was there for "the end of history." Yet they have screwed the pooch even worse than the early 80's, and brought in another country to boot, China. China's an even bigger f-ck up than Russia, they are more corrupt which suits our leaders just fine. Poor Russia got put on the back burner, so to make us take them seriously they had to invade somebody, anybody, and that anybody was Ukraine.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Truth there Edwin

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Edwin's avatar

Truth is, Communism moved from the Kremlin to Beijing and then to Washington. DC.

The collapse of capitalism will move more people than it lifted out of poverty, back into poverty. It is happening now.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

End stage capitalism. Maybe US isn’t the third country in this connect the dot psyops …. Maybe they are first , just more sneaky 😈

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Edwin's avatar

Just a thought, but a valid one, we financed Germany in WWII to their destruction, so the Reds could take over Eastern Europe, only to lose it now and then re-take it, one piece at a time, all for the Military Industrial Complex.

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Edwin's avatar

Only a psychopath could come up with that one.

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The Word Herder's avatar

The US financed the Nazis, too.

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Kenn Goodwin's avatar

Me too.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Yes sir ☠️☠️☠️

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

It’s about 💰 . Wars =money

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Edwin's avatar

People, civilians, military, never count for much, now they don't count for anything, anything at all.

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Evil Harry's avatar

America is the bad guy here, along with the UK.

Yet again.

The rest of Europe are just puppets at this point.

The writing was on the wall for Ukraine when the US staged a coup there in 2014.

Western munitions murdering civilians in the Donbass since that time, CIA border posts and US Bioweapons research labs are not the actions of an innocent or benign regime.

The Minsk accords being a bluff to placate Russia, while Ukraine built up thousands of miles of defences, shows how deceitful US - EU policy towards Russia has been.

Breaking the promise not to further expand Nato towards Russias borders just proves yet again that we cannot be trusted.

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Edwin's avatar

The US staged a "coup" there in 2014, according to who, Victoria Nuland. And you believed her. Oh, Obama got billions out of the deal (created Anticoruption Bureau with Soros) and Putin got Crimea for free.

We can't be trusted (Marxists), but show me a signed agreement to not expand NATO and then we can have a discussion.

We are the bad guys, along with the Russians, and Chinese, British, French, who all guaranteed Ukraines borders with the Budapest Memorandum (94) which returned 1800 nuclear weapons to Russia (foolish).

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Al X G's avatar

So NATO expanding from 15 countries when the East German wall came down and the USSR breaking up to 31 (and counting) including Poland, Estonia and Finland now had nothing to do with Russian aggression? NATO war games in the Black Sea even near Sevastopol should be viewed how by Putin? Biolabs in Ukraine affirmed by Nuland should be interpreted how by Russia? The Maidan Revolution? Zelensky has re-instituted marshal law yet again in his “democracy.” And now he’s getting his hands on NATO supplied F-16s to potentially attack deeper into Russia?

So Edwin are you are a proponent for WW3?

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Edwin's avatar

Furthest thing from it!

But show me the signed document with the promise not to expand NATO, then we'll talk. Ukraine, whatever their corrupt government is, had a signed document from, among others, Russia, who breaks these treaties like they are pie crusts.

There is a much bigger game here, besides enriching the MIC (on both sides).

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The Word Herder's avatar

What are your sources?

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Edwin's avatar

Everywhere, every thing.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Fair enough.

I think maybe all of us on this page are on the same page... ;)

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Al X G's avatar

Well pretty sure we’re both confident that document never existed, and whether Baker uttered such a verbal promise to Yeltsin will forever remain speculative. But Russian treaties malfeasance aside, President Bush the elder totally whiffed on a truly golden opportunity to dramatically reshape geopolitical dynamics by pulling back from and even dissolving NATO to put the west on a new trajectory of peace. Why would we expect that from a CIA guy though lol. Typical lack of vision from the (controlled) executive office.

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Edwin's avatar

I am in 100% agreement with you here.

I remember 9-11-1990, Bush had me till then when he spoke of the New World Order. I knew it was a sham, got on the Hog, and went out to get drunk.

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The Word Herder's avatar

It's my considered opinion that we don't even have national govt's anyway, or maybe on the FACE of things.... It's all Crown Corporation.

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Al X G's avatar

Great plan - doing that now!

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The Word Herder's avatar

She's not the only one that watched the CIA fuck up Ukraine. Is that what you mean?

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Edwin's avatar

Something like that

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The Word Herder's avatar

It appears to be the case that the UK, US, Five Eyes, and most of the rest of the world is actually run by the Crown Corporation, "Black Nobility" they call themselves... Romans, basically, and I donut mean Italians.

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The Word Herder's avatar

America, the "United States," has never been run by The People, it's always been a shadowy presence Behind The Curtain running things... Thanks to traitors like Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, and Alexander Hamilton, we've never been "free."

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Mr. Scribblerius's avatar

Respectfully. Much of our debt was accrued post WWII in failed attempts to stop the spread of communism around the world in hot, non-war wars. It was and still is, military adventurism. Empire building. It is antithetical to our existence. To say Europe was liberated with the fall of the Soviet state is generous. Many governments were liberated of their Soviet rule or influence; but to consider these governments today to be liberal and their people liberated is a stretch, considering the recent cases of CJ Hopkins and Gonzalo Lira, respectively, by the German and Ukraine governments.

Reagan should be given credit for robust diplomacy in Europe, but he’s not. Every president since Reagan, leading up to the invasion of Ukraine, should be given credit for failed diplomacy, but they’re not.

At this point, a $60B+ appropriation for military aide to Ukraine is drop in the bucket. This is true. Most of that is actually reinvested into the U.S. economy anyway, particularly in Maryland and Virginia. But the tab keeps adding up and it has been for many years without much return on investment. Central America is a mess. We’ve spent a lot there over the decades. A lot of blood and treasure was spent in Asia to stop the spread of communism. China is still building islands, the ARVN fell and the Korean Peninsula is still divided. Middle East (see Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc). Protecting US national interests, defending our allies, maintaining the liberal world order, defending the rules based international order. None of this working. Reagan tried diplomacy in Europe (yes, peace through strength) and it worked. But it hasn’t been tried since.

The US economy spends heavily on entitlements. A whopping 43% goes toward SSI, Medicare and unemployment benefits. We can bring that number down considerably if we narrow the delta that exists between those are paying into the system and have paid into the system, and those who have never paid into the system. Conversely, 18% of expenditures goes toward national defense. Of that, 4% is for veteran’s benefits. We only spend 2% on transportation, which is critical infrastructure. Now consider 13% of our budget spent on net interest because of the debt we’ve accrued.

Bottom line, if we are going to debate reducing entitlements then we need to debate reducing defense expenditures also. We can’t sustain entitlements when, quantifiably, less people are paying into the system than withdrawing from it. We also can’t sustain perma-war without a quantifiable peace dividend (ROI).

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The Word Herder's avatar

And those "entitlements," are actually the taxpayers' wages, subtracted from their paychecks without permission (not needed, when you're a slave), and raided for all kinds of War Machine Fuckery... Those "entitlements" are also being drained off of the People and given to the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants swarming over our borders (in the US)...

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The Word Herder's avatar

I fail to understand how fiat currency even makes any difference... They just print more when they "run low."

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Edwin's avatar

Yep, you make some excellent points.

We should have never 'done business' with the Communists, first and foremost.

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Palamambron's avatar

I don't think there has been a real election since the end of the third bankruptcy in 2000, and I don't expect there to be one this year. It's better for the people of the states to recognize that their trust has been violated, and that the federal government has forfeited all its constitutional duties and privileges, and that people following the federal chain of command are not constitutional authorities. We have been attacked by the corporation contracted to provide our government and this has voided all contracts. I'm talking about the Crown Temple Bank of England in the City of London Corporation. All these federal alphabet agents running around doing crimes are Templars, or company men, agents of the crown. We can't sue British holdings in the civil courts of the states. Our recourse is to recognize the war being waged against us by Britain, and to fight in that war and win it.

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Tomaso's avatar

I tend to disagree with this author and agree with Evil Harry. This link answers many questions.

https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2024/02/27/victoria-nuland-and-the-truth-about-ukraine-that-cnn-will-never-show-you/

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Tomaso's avatar

The West is in serious disagreement as to potentially starting WW III.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/natos-debate-over-direct-military-intervention-ukraine-shows-its-desperation

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Edwin's avatar

Just think of the contracts then, the MIC (on both sides) would jump for joy.

They have probably figured out how to keep it tactual and local. And have it all on TV, for the uninformed unthinking drones out there (who still make up the majority).

Nuclear War, covid would be the least of our concerns them, and that will probably drive it.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Except that I do think the whole "Covid" thing is going to explode all by itself, without nukes, even.

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ABIGAIL REPORTS's avatar

Scientists work on project that may change how we produce food, starting with dairy: ‘High-risk, high-reward’

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/scientists-project-may-change-produce-223000625.html

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Edwin's avatar

One day, but not instead of real food.

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ABIGAIL REPORTS's avatar

Biden To Give $850 Million to a Chinese-Owned Battery Company

https://freebeacon.com/energy/biden-to-give-850-million-to-a-chinese-owned-battery-company/

$6 a box for chemicals, corn syrup, sugar, and dyes.

Kellogg CEO faces backlash for suggesting people eat 'cereal for dinner' to save money

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kellogg-ceo-faces-backlash-suggesting-195320012.html#:~:text=WK%20Kellogg%20CEO%20Gary%20Pilnick's,the%20strain%20of%20grocery%20prices.

Indiana farmers raise national security fears over Chinese land buys

Indiana legislators are considering a bill to ban certain ownership of of farmland by China and other adversaries, following similar moves in dozens of other states.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13132977/china-buys-indiana-farms-sparks-fear-spy-threat.html

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Edwin's avatar

We can't win, not even the little things!

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The Word Herder's avatar

And I don't believe it's CHINESE land buys, either. It's an OLD ploy to blame the Chinese, when it's actually Crown Corporation, ie, the Venetians, the evil rat bastards that have been running the world for thousands of years...

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The Word Herder's avatar

We, as in The People in every country, need to take back our farm lands!

By force, probably. It was Kissinger, Psychopath Extraordinaire, who said "Control the food supply, and you control the people."

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