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Ivan M. Paton's avatar

I was bought up in an era in Australia when every home had a closet full of guns.

We were taught to shoot, to hunt, and to be responsible. We had no 'gun violence'. in that time. My great grandfathers generation all came home from WW1 with 0.303 rifles that were an awesome weapon. Not many around today. As a teenager from the age of about 13 onwards my cousins and I were often trucked out and left in the wilderness camping for a week or two at a time. We always went armed to the teeth, and shot pigs, ducks and kangaroos. Wild game. I gave up my guns as an young adult as I started travelling and working around Oz. Now with what is happening in the world, I think back and wonder whether they'd be an asset to have now.

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Edwin's avatar

Ivan, I absolutely could not imagine being un-armed.

I own a single pistol, a Browning Hi Power in .40 S&W.

A pistol is only good for fighting your way to your rifle, which you should not have laid down in the first place!

And multiple rifles, bolt action, or automatic, Short Barrel Rifles, even a couple of suppressors.

When they come to take them, I will, just like we did with the Brits, shoot them.

Everybody in this country feels the same way with the exception of these "Demoralized-Normalized" victims of Communist propaganda and disinformation.

I haven't given up on all of them, some for sure, but most normal Americans have, and don't give a shit!

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Ivan M. Paton's avatar

Lol - your comment got me laughing!!

As soon as I started reading it I thought 'this guy's an American for sure' - I think I'd see that already but didn't recall.

However your freedom loving second amendment rights fierceness shined through to tell me.

I used to think you American's were crazy about guns. I remember sitting in a bar in London, Janet's Place, in South Kensington, talking to a very upper class wealth American lady from Boston, who was so sweet, and you'd think butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. And then she started talking about her guns. I was shocked. And she said something similar about not being able to imagine not having guns.

Now having lived through Covid tyranny for 2.5 years, and been focused America all through that time, and learning more about the country, the constitution, that it's a republic not a democracy, for the first time in my life I have come to understand the value of the American project.

And the republic model should be exported globally.

As well as the second amendment.

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Edwin's avatar

Yep, it isn't the guns we are obsessed with, it is all of the other God given rights recognized by our founders.

“You know why there’s a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one.”

--Rush Limbaugh

Somebody asked me:

"Would you really shoot them if they came to take your guns?"

I told them:

"We shot the Brits didn't we?"

"Lexington Green, look it up."

Lexington Militia Captain John Parker's order at Lexington Green, "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here."

That is what it means when "President Rock Hudson" (World War III) says "Sooner or later the American people are their own leaders."

So the War for Independence wasn't started by George Washington, or Thomas Jefferson or Ben Franklin but by a farmer, mechanic, and soldier, John Parker, an American.

And it birthed a "new man" to use a phrase that will piss off Communists everywhere, an "American Man." When the war finally ended, and the Brits retreated to their navy, this new man didn't yell insults, or "snipe" at the boats to inflict just a few more casualties, he just watched, leaning on his "long rifle" and perhaps enjoying a smoke, or some spirits.

A few of the British realized that the world would never be the same, and one young British rifleman stood in the small boat, and saluted the men watching.

They returned his salute, and 5 years later, he returned to the colonies to earn his American citizenship. History has lost his name, his profession, but not his destination, Lexington, Mass.

It is said he named his first son "John Parker ___."

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Ivan M. Paton's avatar

Interesting....the LaRouche organization thinks that the biggest group responsible for trying to undermine America today is the British - And that the British have been trying to subvert the American project since they lost. That the Anglo-American project is really the Brits in charge yanking the strings, and getting America to do the dirty work to support and continue their imperialistic project, which never went away, it just transformed into economic imperialism. I personally think that this group has expanded to include all the closet Nazis from WW2 and their intergenerational influence and business empire.

What do you think of the British angle?

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Edwin's avatar

You know, I never really bought that British angle, but London is one of the world's financial centers, not quite like New York, but still.

The LaRouche group I've not followed much, they do seem to have a lot of Commies onboard, but no, it is the British, not the Communists that have been subverting us for over 100 years. These folks are fruitcakes!

If it wasn't as plain as the nose on your face, we had a end of the Cold War with the collapse of Communism. But no trials, no hearings, nobody executed, and out of the four "leaders" of the coup, Vlad Putin gave three of them.,all military Generals, "Hero of the Russian Federation" medals in the early 2000s.

Now, with an outdated American Strategic Nuclear Force, according to Dr. Yan, the CCP is turning out 10 warhead ICBMs "like sausages" to presumably fill up those 345 missile silos they built out in the desert. These are the same weapons the Chinese have termed "obsolete" and "useless in modern war" but they still need them?

This is being covered up, but the Chinese are supporting the Russians not because they are Communist brothers, not because they wish to please the old Communist structures, but because they need the PLUTONIUM!

"…for the Soviet Union was geared to one objective, one mission, and the collapse of the Soviet Union was not the end of that mission but a means to it.”

Some people will say that is craziness, you are wrong, Communism collapsed, nuclear winter makes war impossible, the radioactive cloud would destroy all life on earth, Global Warming is the threat, and all of these examples of "consensus."

I say, just what if I am not, just consider that there is the possibility that all of these examples of "consensus" are disinformation plots started by the enemies of freedom.

What was the "reason" the decoded Verona Intercepts were kept from the people till the early 90s?

The Dvil's greatest trick was making people believe he didn't exist.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

How about planning for something less combatant?

Be prepared that they will come on food trucks, feigning to distribute rations... Looters or mercs, makes no difference.

Please, notice that the Brits didn't have drones, robotic soldiers, and Direct Energy Weapons, either, chemical and biological weapons, bazookas, flying fortresses, laser-guided missiles, plus satellite support. And I haven't mentioned about 75% of modern tech...

A single houshold will not pose any threat for the occupying troops. A flash grenade in your house, perhaps spiked with some tear gas, and you are incapacitated. Camping out, even at night, will still provide thermal images of you for the satellites and the drones.

But I don't think there will be any gun confiscation. It's going to get better.

The real threat will come with the food shortages and the famine, when all the "law-abiding citizens" will be willing to kill each other for a bowl of thin soup, especially, if they have young children... Favor done to the eugenicists, free of charge, while they can lean back in their remote island compounds, watching the satellite images and snicker...

Local communities must be built before the SHTF... Even at that point, I'm not sure how far people will be able to trust each other, because most of them don't have pre-industrial marketable skills and they will run out of stuff for barter...

No matter how it will pan out, it ain't going to be pretty...

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Antechinus's avatar

Crickey! If civil war ever breaks out in America I wouldn't want to be innocently walking around the countryside. 😄

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Edwin's avatar

Amanda, darling, you are on "our side."

Got a red bandana?

And no, not affiliated with the "Bloods" (street gang).

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Antechinus's avatar

Ha ha, yes, but what if they shoot first and ask questions later? So wear something red? Got it. 👍👍

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Edwin's avatar

Red bandana tied around your head. mil cap with a red line, a MAGA hat, US Flag, something like that, with red.

And if we're not sure:

"He's the little fellow that saw the guy."

"My name is Detective Murtaugh. What's yours?"

"-Don't tell him your name. -He'll put you in jail."

"You won't see your mom."

"It's all right. l won't put you in jail. What's your name?"

"-Don't tell him, Alfred. "

MURTAUGH: "Alfred!"

"This is Alfred! Hey, meet Alfred. This is Alfred."

"Alfred, hi! How old are you?"

"Six."

"Six years old. I bet you like Go-Bots."

"Is that a real gun?"

Murtaugh: "Yeah, this is a real gun."

"Do you kill people?"

Murtaugh: "No. If some guy is hurting someone, I try to shoot him in the leg...

...just to stop him."

See, we'll just shoot you in the leg, then question you.

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Antechinus's avatar

A Lethal Weapon fan. Haha.

Just in the leg then? Try not to hit an artery. I think I will wear a large red bonnet. Like in the olden days.

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Edwin's avatar

Excellent choice!

Naw, we won't shoot anybody but the enemy, women are far too valuable to risk any damage, even if beyond child bearing years they still make the best child rearing years!

And somebody, not me, but somebody is going to have to try to replace all the people we have/will lose.

We are talking about the survival of the species here, not just our "way of life."

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