A Different Ukrainian Perspective

Delete the Coup Propaganda

This was a comment made by Jeff Nyquist on his website on October 6th.

“When I listen to Tucker the following thoughts come to mind. The mistake in his analysis is very basic. He has accepted a Russian propaganda version of what happened in Ukraine from 2013-14. For him, the Ukrainian people did nothing. Corrupt gangsters and the CIA did everything. It was a coup, not a genuine expression of Ukrainian feeling, of wanting the government to respect the people of Ukraine; and wanting true independence from Moscow and Moscow’s stooges in the government. For Tucker Carlson, the Ukrainian people are nothing. They have no agency. They have no desire for freedom and did nothing on their own behalf. It was a Nazi gang paid by the Americans. That is all. This is demonstrably false, of course, and Tucker ought to know this. But he is too busy to check his premises. The Ukrainians are not the corrupt puppets of wicked Western interests. They stood up by the millions, on their own, making great personal sacrifices. And they are standing up now, in the war. No Western propaganda could have accomplished this. After talking to many Ukrainians over the last fifteen years, and reading extensively, I can see the Russian disinformation that was at work back in 2004 and 2010 and 2014. It was the classic divide and conquer tactic employed by a colonizing power, and I can see that those tactics failed because the Ukrainian people would not accept a divisive argument from class envy, pitting the blue collar East Ukraine vs. white collar West Ukraine, pitting Russian speakers against Ukrainian speakers. All the lies about Ukrainians killing Russian children are mere inventions. Blatant untruths for anyone who cares to investigate. Besides this, the idea that the inept CIA could outmanevuer the KGB in a former Soviet republic, on their home ground, without Ukrainians desperately wanting independence from Moscow, is absurd on its face. Equally ridiculous is the idea that America, under Obama, wanted Ukraine to break with Russia. Obama was always subservient to Moscow. His CIA was not going against Putin. He would not have dared. In fact, Obama’s minions did everything they could to interfere with the new Ukrainian political process. This interference, in my opinion, was to help Moscow get Ukraine back under its thumb. Look at Biden’s threats against Kiev, to stop a prosecutor from investigating his son’s corrupt company. This does not show Obama’s people fighting corruption in Ukraine, but helping to protect it! Tucker Carlson has not thought this through. Given Obama’s own communsit past, being mentored by a Communist Party operative (Frank Marshall Davis), Obama would not have crossed Putin. His anti-Russian stance was never genuine, and not heart-felt. Go back and read the very honest account of Obama’s Russia expert, Michael McFaul. Here is a leftist of the sincere type, by no means a Russian shill. As ambassador to Russia he became the butt of Russia’s most cruel jokes, and Obama left him in the lurch, without truly supporting him against the Kremlin’s campaign of vilification. In terms of the Revolution of Dignity, there is no doubt that the Ukrainians were the primary actors, and their intelligence services suffered an internal split as a result of the people’s rising against Moscow’s puppet government. Many officials have fled to Moscow over the last 8 years. Many have been arrested during the war. The Ukrainian people made the 2014 Revolution, in my opinion, just as their passionate desire for independence from Moscow inspired a firm determination to fight. Look at the morale on both sides in this war. Russia is the superior military power, and they are falling apart. As many as 700,000 Russians have fled Russia to escape military service. This is hardly an endorsement of Russia’s just cause. Meanwhile, Ukraine has suffered massive bombardments, including bombardment from thermobaric weapons. And the Ukrainians still fight. They did not run away. They held Kiev against encirclement. They held Nikolaev in the south. They have pushed the invader back. Ukraine has stood up to this blistering assault. Cities were leveled, tens of thousands killed. Ukraine is no proxy — any more than George Washington was a proxy of France in the American Revolution. This is my view, and I hope to write more about this in detail.”

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This aligns very well with my thoughts that the US Intel “claimed” the revolution in order to give their good buddy Putin the right to disregard the Budapest Memorandum and so be able to seize western territories and Crimea as the country, in Putin’s own words, Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum with (which returned 1800 nuclear weapons to Russia) “no longer existed.”

And of course Glenn Beck outlined in several hour plus long podcasts the Obama Administration money laundering efforts in Ukraine which included even Hunter Biden the crackhead, and totaled a minimum of over, and we don’t know how much over, 12.5 Billion dollars.

Look at the amounts now, nearly an order of magnitude higher.

What are the ultimate goals of Russia as well as the US Intel Community since they are obviously in this together, like they have always been sine Obama and his “flexibility.”

Isn’t it strange that that was about the time the Democrat Socialist Marxists all of a sudden became the Russians most hated enemy, after a century of overt and covert cooperation?

NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS.